@ofpope.bsky.social·2026-09-29T01:58:14.947Z#
This is a "call your mom and read this out loud to her, then listen to what she says" situation.
What a ghoul.
"Does the rationalist movement have a misogyny problem?" is a question with a pretty clear answer. Just look at what Yud's willing to say out loud.
Oden@odense.bsky.social·2026-09-28T18:45:00.995Z#
Just the shallowest thinker of any supposed brain-genius I ever heard of.
the cool s@sophiahelix.bsky.social·2026-09-28T21:52:53.489Z#
Ok but what does he think my engineer son is supposed to do
(oh wait his kink is dystopias where women are forced into sex work, he doesn't actually care about men or the economy or whatever)
Robby@robbysimpson.bsky.social·2026-09-28T21:54:30.120Z#
crafting a narrative in which the only two outcomes conveniently presuppose what he's trying to persuade you of
SPFHockeyfan, Esq. 🍁@spfhockeyfan.bsky.social·2026-09-29T13:19:39.447Z#
Fucking loons
Andrew: weird and loud@ak0.bsky.social·2026-09-28T20:55:18.958Z#
Did he say "ai hopefuls should train their daughters to be prostitutes in the good scenarios"!?
vILLAGE GENIOUS@suddenlygarmo.bsky.social·2026-09-28T17:36:14.298Z#
what the fuck is this weirdo talking about. he sounds like an insane person
'viktor shtrum'@viktorshtrum.bsky.social·2026-09-28T18:05:35.328Z#
He is one
Zemyla@zemyla.bsky.social·2026-09-29T21:14:58.125Z#
He's a middle school dropout who calls himself an "autodidact".
C.V. Danes@cv-danes.com·2026-09-28T18:36:55.163Z#
"Instead, how about sending your underage daughter to one of our polycules. We'll look after her. Promise."
🐜 🍯 Anth-“unholy” Becker@anthonybecker.bsky.social·2026-09-28T21:30:42.727Z#
No imagination. No “this could make more people free”. No “this should make more people free”. What an evil freak.
AlbertsinPhilly@albertsinphilly.bsky.social·2026-09-28T18:13:06.726Z#
Which is the optimist? The sex work or the implied young death?
Wallenstein Appreciator@marbleliberal.bsky.social·2026-09-28T18:17:51.923Z#
The optimist is that ai doesn't kill us and life continues as normal, in which case she should quit because women can't be engineers
A Frogs Gent@frogsgent.bsky.social·2026-09-28T18:19:10.847Z#
Yud has a lot of gall claiming women can't be engineers when he himself has shown zero capacity to be an engineer.
OκULTRA XP🧿, writer for The Economist@0kultra.bsky.social·2026-09-28T23:38:48.159Z#
the argument is rather obviously that in the AI optimist scenario nobody can be an engineer because Jev took all the jebs but I think it would have been less prone to misogyny interpretations if it did not involve a daughter.
The Lincolnshire Poster@desiderratum.bsky.social·2026-09-29T14:45:22.159Z#
I also think the thrust is that the "optimistic" scenario is only good when compared with extinction (typical Yudkowskian gloom), & that it's misogynist in a conservative "sex work is the worst thing that could happen to a woman" way
Faine Greenwood@faineg.com·2026-09-29T14:39:32.514Z#
and it’s really telling that that’s the first thing he reached for
A Frogs Gent@frogsgent.bsky.social·2026-09-28T18:14:21.823Z#
Sex work.
I think, ostensibly, the idea is that both outcomes are Bad, but the fact that Yud's brain can't imagine any outcome for women beyond "sex worker" says a lot more about him than anything else.
Katharine the Geek (Lesbian Bitch)@katharinethegeek.bsky.social·2026-09-29T02:51:55.820Z#
In the “optimistic” future he imagines, I’ll choose the alternate path he’d not considered: enough women just get fed up with techbros trying to run the planet and rip out the tech industry root and branch.
Marius@zamfir.bsky.social·2026-09-28T19:17:33.583Z#
The optimistic view is that all work in the future will be done by Ai, controlled by a small group of people. We commoners will be unemployed and starve to death unless we're lucky enough to become a sex worker favoured by those AI people.
To be clear, Yud himself thinks the future will be worse
Mort Grim’s Chump of the Eek!@officialjplosman.bsky.social·2026-09-28T17:37:40.463Z#
The question assumes that the loathsome stunted cretins who make up the “rationalist movement” would correctly understand misogyny to be a bad thing, which is very much not in evidence
Jeffrey Winters@jeffreywinters.bsky.social·2026-09-28T17:50:41.328Z#
You’ll never go broke telling rich people what they desperately want to hear.
FBS@fbsxix.bsky.social·2026-09-28T17:27:23.036Z#
nuke the bay
WrathofAchilles@wrathofachilles.bsky.social·2026-09-28T21:34:04.699Z#
So many of our problems would actually be solved if Techbros ceased to exist.
Sure we'd have less tech but I'm willing to trade all that away.
Hellum Dander@kellumdander.bsky.social·2026-09-29T12:09:48.509Z#
not sure we’d have less tech
Zemyla@zemyla.bsky.social·2026-09-29T21:14:14.146Z#
Techbros don't actually build tech.
Eichbjørnchen@eichbjornchen.eurosky.social·2026-09-29T10:49:53.353Z#
We need Snake Plissken.
Patrick Matthews@matthewsp.bsky.social·2026-09-28T17:27:52.477Z#
JFC
High How Are You, Rat@fractus.bsky.social·2026-09-28T17:56:02.793Z#
What the fuck does this even mean? AI is going to reduce women to sex workers? What
ivysorta 🏳️⚧️@ivysorta.bsky.social·2026-09-28T18:06:45.231Z#
His "optimistic" scenario is AI becomes omnipotent and takes over all jobs so only the people who own everything and their toadies get to have a decent life. His pessimistic scenario is that the omnipotent machine god just kills everyone.
The idea of AI not becoming god doesn't occur to him.
A Frogs Gent@frogsgent.bsky.social·2026-09-28T18:12:45.788Z#
Heck, the idea that other options might exist for people in those two scenarios doesn't seem to occur to him.
High How Are You, Rat@fractus.bsky.social·2026-09-28T18:15:39.239Z#
These people are genuinely insane
alarmist morisette@technicalsquirrel.bsky.social·2026-09-28T17:23:56.603Z#
i'm glad these guys are the leading voices for safety, idk about the rest of you but i'm feeling safe as fuck right now
accidentalflyer 🇨🇦🇹🇼🇺🇸🇺🇦@accidentalflyer.bsky.social·2026-09-28T17:26:29.529Z#
These guys are the pseudo-leading voices for AI Safety. It's all play-pretend. In reality they have done absolutely nothing around AI Safety. (No, Harry Potter fan-fic does not count.)
joel@jmoonz.bsky.social·2026-09-28T22:08:36.687Z#
yes, yud doesn't actually know how to build ai - safe or otherwise - so he does philosophy and social media.
accidentalflyer 🇨🇦🇹🇼🇺🇸🇺🇦@accidentalflyer.bsky.social·2026-09-28T22:27:43.979Z#
Yud does pseudo-philosophy. He doesn't know real philosophy even if it hits him right in the face. Social media? Yeah.
alarmist morisette@technicalsquirrel.bsky.social·2026-09-28T17:38:10.678Z#
oh that's good to know. can't trust anybody on the internet anymore.
@aquartermain.bsky.social·2026-09-29T02:14:53.460Z#
The problem is that a lot of the people actually working on AI (safety or otherwise) and a lot of the money behind it, are in this guy's creepy sphere.
He's influential.
Beng@bengtang.bsky.social·2026-09-28T17:35:03.278Z#
Morri, Moonlit Witch@vornsuki.bsky.social·2026-09-28T17:54:52.017Z#
... what... which fate corresponds to which? if AI pessimists are right, am i becoming a sex worker paid in stocks or having a short life???
A Frogs Gent@frogsgent.bsky.social·2026-09-28T17:57:06.134Z#
Sex Worker is the "optimistic" choice in Yud's framing, I believe.
Morri, Moonlit Witch@vornsuki.bsky.social·2026-09-28T17:59:10.345Z#
i guess it makes sense from a guy attached to a movement promoting industry sex parties
i guess "pessimistic" in his sense is more "AI is going to kill everyone" than "AI isn't going to do what optimists say it's going to do"
ellie lockhart (she/they)@eleanor.lockhart.contact·2026-09-28T17:59:47.377Z#
Yeah he’s not considering that scenario at all, but I think if you asked him about it he would say that’s the most optimistic scenario
ellie lockhart (she/they)@eleanor.lockhart.contact·2026-09-28T17:59:09.866Z#
Yeah, Yud is saying “the optimists <who he disagrees with> think this will make everyone unemployed, the pessimists <him> think it will literally kill everyone imminently”. And to be really clear, for deeply stupid reasons, he genuinely believes in the pessimist scenario
Trai... so tired of billionaires@trai70.bsky.social·2026-09-29T00:18:18.555Z#
Only two possible outcomes? Is that all he can imagine?
Feels like a skill issue 🤔
🕸godhatesyeeeest🕷@godhatesyeast.bsky.social·2026-09-28T17:33:42.077Z#
🕸godhatesyeeeest🕷@godhatesyeast.bsky.social·2026-09-28T17:33:06.075Z#
Wingofbenu@wingofbenu.bsky.social·2026-09-29T14:45:43.182Z#
jesus fucking christ just reading this shit makes me want to take a baseball bat to whatever server hosts his stupid website
Avery Thompson@avery-thompson.bsky.social·2026-09-28T18:41:12.032Z#
I made up my opinion about this guy when I read a scifi short story he had written where, in the future, nonconsensual sex was normal and encouraged and this was presented as a good thing. just an absolute fucking creep.
Iykyk@lipstickscribbles.bsky.social·2026-09-28T12:50:37.908Z#
Someone who senators should def be taking meetings with. 🤦
Gee@gdd9000.bsky.social·2026-09-28T17:34:53.368Z#
seriously...oof, Bernie has really lost the thread
Robert Ramsay@robertramsay.org·2026-09-29T15:00:10.916Z#
Fucking - and I cannot state this too strongly - hell
mboodowney@mathgrenades.bsky.social·2026-09-29T01:23:00.686Z#
I swear those assholes are channeling the Brethren of the Free Spirit.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brethre...
Little Fiery Mario@littlefierymario.bsky.social·2026-09-28T17:24:53.609Z#
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Grumbholdt@grumdholt.bsky.social·2026-09-28T17:31:15.075Z#
Which of these is supposed to be the optimistic outcome?
Wallenstein Appreciator@marbleliberal.bsky.social·2026-09-28T18:18:10.750Z#
The optimist is that ai doesn't kill us and life continues as normal, in which case she should quit because women can't be engineers
A Frogs Gent@frogsgent.bsky.social·2026-09-28T17:32:20.515Z#
I think the sex worker one, because apparently it doesn't occur to Yud that women might not, in fact, want to become sex workers for tech bros.
El Jefecito@gbsooner.bsky.social·2026-09-28T17:40:57.880Z#
Yea I guess the “optimistic” one is that AI becomes real and does all the engineering jobs and also every other job but sex work? I guess. Dude is so high on his own farts, he really thinks an LLM is somehow gonna become capable of real intelligence.
A Frogs Gent@frogsgent.bsky.social·2026-09-28T17:46:39.399Z#
It's funny because I'm in the middle of an AI class right now and the professor basically said "LLMs aren't *made* to emulate human intelligence, they tried doing that and it didn't work, so they pursued this instead."
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S. T. Ismail@stismail.bsky.social·2026-09-28T21:00:34.379Z#
The other option appears to be "we all die in a few years," so the alternative has to be the optimistic view. [He wrote a book titled "If Anyone Builds It, Everyone Dies: Why Superhuman AI Would Kill Us All".]
A. Vague@awfullyvague.bsky.social·2026-09-28T18:21:05.526Z#
What about men? Might *they* have to become sex workers? Funny that he doesn't mention that.
I'm sure there's a very rational reason.
A Frogs Gent@frogsgent.bsky.social·2026-09-28T18:23:37.709Z#
Presumably the men are either AIco Stock Owners or Dead.
Iain AF Fleming 🐧@legalweasel.uk·2026-09-29T09:59:40.825Z#
Let's aim for "dead".
Bolt van der Huge@iddqd58.bsky.social·2026-09-28T19:24:59.926Z#
There's a third way he hasn't considered, and it's to prevent the supposedly inevitable AI-pocalypse by enacting Sarah Connor's plan from Terminator 2 on [redacted on legal advice]
Bone Daddy@bklynmichael42.bsky.social·2026-09-28T17:30:24.330Z#
I’d ask what the Rationalist Movement is, but if this asshole is in any way representative of it, fuck him, fuck the movement, and fuck anyone supporting any of this bullshit.
Robert Ramsay@robertramsay.org·2026-09-29T15:02:30.238Z#
So "Popularism" - only popular with the far right
and "Rationalism" - lunatics
Erin E. Worrel 👻@erinerex.bsky.social·2026-09-28T17:44:08.914Z#
Your assessment is correct
Bill Stewart@billstewart.bsky.social·2026-09-28T18:23:51.807Z#
The current movement that abuses the term "rationalist" to justify their wacko ideas is this guy's. Makes Objectivism look better by contrast.
Also "Effective Altruism" is mostly the same folks,
who think it's ok if we wreck the planet as long as they get to build the Great AI Paradise in the Future
Bone Daddy@bklynmichael42.bsky.social·2026-09-28T18:30:24.025Z#
Ah, I see. Well then….
Definitely fuck them.
Hans@hvs.bsky.social·2026-09-28T18:11:11.441Z#
Even better: he created it.
Luigi "The Adjuster" Mangione@kwh561.cryptoanarchy.network·2026-09-28T18:35:36.213Z#
fuck just about anyone is a safe bet lately
Bone Daddy@bklynmichael42.bsky.social·2026-09-28T18:43:52.225Z#
How much time you got?
Ron’s Computer Videos 🧍♂️🖥️📼@ronscompvids.bsky.social·2026-09-29T14:45:15.945Z#
Who is this loser? His name is like a bad Scrabble hand.
James Mitchell@wotsac.bsky.social·2026-09-29T15:33:58.157Z#
He is lamentably influential unfortunately.
Also we, and you in particular (I know you're sharp) can do better than cheap xenophobe humor
Ron’s Computer Videos 🧍♂️🖥️📼@ronscompvids.bsky.social·2026-09-29T16:07:59.268Z#
It's easy to get it wrong. But in my defense, it's a MST3K joke.
Ron’s Computer Videos 🧍♂️🖥️📼@ronscompvids.bsky.social·2026-09-29T16:09:04.109Z#
dirtside's monster@dirtside.bsky.social·2026-09-28T21:45:36.231Z#
so he's a total fucking psychopath, got it
Bama Montana 🦋@bamamontana.bsky.social·2026-09-28T19:09:32.868Z#
Oh wow he’s the one who said that.
Sagittarius A*@sagastar.bsky.social·2026-09-28T18:29:23.813Z#
A Frogs Gent@frogsgent.bsky.social·2026-09-28T18:30:47.942Z#
It's a movement dominated by Very Online People with overinflated opinions of themselves, which means it's a perfect spawning ground for The Worst Ideas You've Ever Heard.
LarryLegend@bwtrainer.bsky.social·2026-09-28T20:18:22.824Z#
This is very far from the point (maybe?), but is his avatar AI? Because lol