Faine Greenwood@faineg.com·2026-09-27T16:09:46.925Z#
“What I personally find so frustrating is no one is ever given an ounce of grace for the understandable ways these conversations might blur. Whereas, men who act poorly are given a delusional amount of cover & protection. They say illogical things and get polite responses.” - on sexism in AI spaces.
Faine Greenwood@faineg.com·2026-09-27T16:12:10.258Z#
More comments from people in the Silicon Valley AI space on how centering group sex events in the scene is hostile to women:
Faine Greenwood@faineg.com·2026-09-27T16:23:37.837Z#
Yes, Slutcon is real.
And while there’s nothing wrong with this kind of event in perfect isolation, in the context of “women in Silicon Valley tech are reporting feeling serious social pressure to attend,” it becomes very gross.
(BTW, Gretta is Eliezer Yudkowsky’s partner).
slutcon.com
Faine Greenwood@faineg.com·2026-09-27T16:24:48.522Z#
it’s also a shame in that I can truly see the value of teaching a workshop to men on “what do you do if you’ve been called a creep,” except that I somehow don’t think these are the right *people* to teach such a workshop in the slightest
Faine Greenwood@faineg.com·2026-09-27T16:28:27.574Z#
Let’s also remember that this is the same group of organizers in the Silicon Valley AI scene who are also involved with throwing “consensual non-consent” events - IE, simulated rape.
Which whistleblowers like Sonia Joseph have cited as creating a “coercive climate” for female AI researchers.
Faine Greenwood@faineg.com·2026-09-27T16:32:40.614Z#
taco belle here is doing a good job of laying out the pretty obvious problems with weaving group sex parties, sometimes involving consensual non-consent, into AI industry culture:
Ian McLean@mrthewalrus.bsky.social·2026-09-27T21:10:55.041Z#
You know, I thought I had a good handle on how weird and awful these people were, but somehow they’re both weirder and worse.
C.A. Petrov@capetrov.bsky.social·2026-09-27T18:31:11.982Z#
It's a little surprising that these people can still pull a "What the actual fuck?" from me, but here we are.
KaterTot@kdoemland.bsky.social·2026-09-27T22:04:27.284Z#
I should think not!
Piper@the-pied-piper.bsky.social·2026-09-27T20:47:59.411Z#
the idea of throwing a CNC event to which people who need the concept explained to them are invited tautologically negates the first C in CNC
I’m honestly unconvinced it’s even possible for a CNC scene involving enough people to call it an “event” to still be CNC instead of outright non-consensual
Greg Gabrielse @newtons-third.bsky.social·2026-09-27T23:32:31.533Z#
Wonder how those same men would react to a woman taking the position of power and wanting to peg the guy? Does the dynamic of CNC work in that direction as well? Or does it only apply to men in that way?
🔞 Wysty, CEO of vampire yuri | Comms Open@wysticlipse.art·2026-09-27T20:01:21.333Z#
given the entire industry is built on the non-consensual exploitation of people's data, I shouldn't be surprised.
But here I am.
Crystal Fountain 🍉❤️🇵🇸 BLM💖 is Shadow banned by Isntreal@thankgod4ever.bsky.social·2026-09-28T23:58:14.409Z#
It's not so surprising to hear this happened with men working at Open AI, when Sam Altman is a rapist and also is purported to engage in rape parties of his own
Knepherbird@knepherbird.com·2026-09-27T16:47:29.357Z#
Okay, tangential to the sex/consent stuff, but if lots of these folks are "expanding their consciousnesses" I can very much understand the paranoid apocalypticism they are developing about their work.
Sarah Tuttle@niais.cryptoanarchy.network·2026-09-27T18:29:04.663Z#
This part, this part that has been the issue for so many minoritized folks for such a long fucking time is what just destroys me constantly:
"I wish that 55% of my brain was not devoted to strategizing about the survival of me and of my friends."
We just want to do our goofy little stuff.
Spooky Kessey, Age of Skeleton@jdkessey.bsky.social·2026-09-27T16:33:31.120Z#
Of course these cretins tried to play word games with this...
The Creatively Maladjusted@tyrotcm.bsky.social·2026-09-27T18:09:11.657Z#
The Creatively Maladjusted@tyrotcm.bsky.social·2026-09-27T18:08:15.357Z#
Deborah@dlowry.bsky.social·2026-09-27T17:30:56.613Z#
Someone is going to get hurt
Zach Rabiroff@zachrabiroff.com·2026-09-27T16:25:42.650Z#
Again, I repeat my call for an investigative journalism intervention
Alexander Hamizdat 🇵🇷@alexhammy209.bsky.social·2026-09-27T16:30:30.378Z#
call the person who scooped NXIVM
Coureur de FemboOoo[Big Bad Bæddel Borg]🏳️⚧️🏳️🌈🐔@droctorock.northsky.social·2026-09-27T17:56:31.386Z#
exactly the wrong people, as far as I can tell
Ben Rosengart@fivetonsflax.myatproto.social·2026-09-27T23:13:00.499Z#
lol, yes, exactly
Andrew: weird and loud@ak0.bsky.social·2026-09-27T18:47:38.021Z#
It feels sort of like how evangelical religions teach kids to go door to door, getting guaranteed rejections to make them view the in-group better.
Obviously these men are infinitely more culpable than any teen could be but it's still "teach ignorant person a lie as truth to lock them in" imo.
Mind Frighten 🎃@porgus.bsky.social·2026-09-27T18:24:56.285Z#
in the context of silicon valley guys who attend glorified sexual assault parties, "what to do if a girl calls you a creep" is probably just "challenge her to a 1v1 in the Rape Arena"
Onno@tinkerspider.bsky.social·2026-09-27T17:45:18.359Z#
Yeah - prob with a certain class of men is that when they get shipped off to therapy or a workshop, they'll find ways to weaponize what they learn there, instead of using it to fix themselves
Ultraviolet Catastrophe@southernviolet.northsky.social·2026-09-27T19:50:56.009Z#
This 100% happens.
Don Incognito@shuadc.bsky.social·2026-09-27T18:19:20.652Z#
The problem is that the workshops people do need to take in this case are not at something called slutcon; they are the ones that convince them that Woke Has Gone Too Far
“Oh this is unpleasant for you and suggests your behavior is creepy and you need to change it? Good, you’re listening”
Desert Kickboxer@desertkickboxer.bsky.social·2026-09-27T16:42:19.778Z#
What do you do if you've been called a creep? Simply reshape from the ground up the entire landscape of intimate activity such that it only takes place in delimited settings where everybody has preregistered their consent to everything that could happen, possibly on the blockchain
Iykyk@lipstickscribbles.bsky.social·2026-09-27T19:25:35.781Z#
Reroll your rizz?
Tho srsly, they need to go on art museum/nature/life trips. Then when they finally get how small and insignificant they are vs how big the world is, maybe they'll get it.
Ultraviolet Catastrophe@southernviolet.northsky.social·2026-09-27T19:52:03.489Z#
They should be dropped in the South Dakota Badlands.
Lois Weiner@drloisweiner.bsky.social·2026-09-27T17:32:29.608Z#
Maybe. Tho the workshop may have good intentions, the idea is flawed, as is clear from research on educating teachers for cultural diversity. A far more powerful experience is for these guys, who don't understand how/why they are oppressors, to work with women who are equals, and learn from them.
CurvilinearCube@curvilinearcube.bsky.social·2026-09-27T17:44:27.205Z#
Of course they aren't rationalists will litteraly try to logically flow chart rape in such a way that the only way anyone could prevent it is by being willing to upon the implication of sexual harassment bite the throat out of their attacker or they basically deserve whatever happens to them.
Denise Ruttan@teawhilewriting.bsky.social·2026-09-27T16:29:32.713Z#
Every time I see what tech bros are up to I think maybe y'all deserve your male loneliness epidemic...
Jarno Niemelä@jarnon.bsky.social·2026-09-27T17:11:51.625Z#
And it’s sickening how they twist words and concepts. Their actions have nothing to do with either rationalism or altruism.
It’s also sickening how just about everything with any kind of power tends to devolve into a sex cult. Humanity is deeply broken.
In These Shoes?@intheseshoes.bsky.social·2026-09-27T17:18:39.691Z#
So You’ve Been Called a Creep.
Maybe don’t be a creep.
Wraithe@wraithe.bsky.social·2026-09-27T17:19:01.619Z#
👆
Ham Roids@anarchymarshmallow.bsky.social·2026-09-27T22:17:56.047Z#
These men are probably, in fact, the ones who would or DID get told what to do after being a creep and threw a fit about women being too sensitive instead of taking any of that feedback seriously.
🎃 Camp Chrystal Lauke Manson 阿劉@chrislaumanson.bsky.social·2026-09-27T17:40:11.460Z#
Oh shit, *THIS* is where the "So you've been called a creep" workshop comes from?????
Jennie Kermode@jenniekermode.bsky.social·2026-09-27T16:57:55.925Z#
That idea that kissing is right out but massage is okay is a big red flag for me. I've encountered that massage culture in science fiction spaces (there is a distinct overlap) and it is often intensely creepy and a prelude to groping, plus there's hostility towards those who reject it.
Eustaciavye77@eustaciavye77.bsky.social·2026-09-27T20:56:31.500Z#
Oh yeah I've seen that in sci-fi spaces and these are the same dudes. They looooove "casual nudity" too.
CarpeNoctem1200@carpenoctem1200.bsky.social·2026-09-27T17:51:11.209Z#
"you have been called a creep? You deserve better - we will teach you to become a Master-Creep!"
@sailingthepuddle.bsky.social·2026-09-27T20:24:16.062Z#
“When dealing with perfectly spherical humans, sex is a total-nonissue. There will not be questions about consent, motive, or libertarian free will” for all other humans, oh boy this is gonna be supercomplicated and we will never have a truly satisfying answer.
G-g-g-g-ghost Pete 🦆@whyaduck.bsky.social·2026-09-27T16:24:53.006Z#
I have taken so much sexual harassment training that my spidey senses are on overdrive reading this.
@cavu4ever.bsky.social·2026-09-27T16:55:11.864Z#
It’s pretty much the polar opposite of the corporate A&D culture I grew up in…our company fired people for putting pix of bikini-clad women on their cube walls
wndl "Dumocrat" bl@wndlb.bsky.social·2026-09-29T15:36:39.389Z#
She's also his secretary: intelligence.org/team/gretta-...
Count Sockula 🎖️💎🧦@drosgood.bsky.social·2026-09-27T17:26:19.932Z#
The lawyer in me really wants to see these companies' liability waivers. Do you have to sign one before attending Slutcon? Is it part of your employment agreement?
@timothystamm101.bsky.social·2026-09-27T21:06:57.647Z#
That last part would be literally illegal because it amounts to demanding prostitution or the old typical sexual harassment quid pro quo.
Jacob Russell@jacobrussell.space·2026-09-28T19:29:42.223Z#
It's not in an isolated context though! We know there's career pressure on people to attend these. That's immediately so far past the line of OK as to render the rest of the discussion moot.
Faine Greenwood@faineg.com·2026-09-29T14:52:36.228Z#
well yeah that’s what I said lol
Basically an Honest Bobo in Paradise@boboinparadise.bsky.social·2026-09-27T17:17:31.073Z#
C'mon
Fire the writers
Coureur de FemboOoo[Big Bad Bæddel Borg]🏳️⚧️🏳️🌈🐔@droctorock.northsky.social·2026-09-27T17:56:01.268Z#
see this just seems like "women are magical beings who know how intimacy and romance work so well that they should extend infinite patience, and indeed teach the poor helpless men who couldn't possibly be expected to know how consent works"
Faine Greenwood@faineg.com·2026-09-27T17:56:54.896Z#
Which is especially enraging considering how many autistic and ND women who also struggle with this stuff are likely in this social scene
Coureur de FemboOoo[Big Bad Bæddel Borg]🏳️⚧️🏳️🌈🐔@droctorock.northsky.social·2026-09-27T18:16:26.174Z#
yes! I didn't want to muddy the point of the above comment, but I'm also screaming "where's the events for autistic/ND women who don't know how to establish clear boundaries, invite the attention they want from who they want without opening themselves up to abuse, and/or don't know how to flirt!"
Andromeda Yelton@thatandromeda.bsky.social·2026-09-27T18:46:53.630Z#
Step 1: decide we are at a status level where all women must be socially confident and normatively hot
Step 2: few of the AFAB people who have been techies forever go to your parties
Step 3: see, women just aren’t interested in/good at tech
Z.V. Anjali@zvanjali.bsky.social·2026-09-27T18:22:20.362Z#
YES that is clearly the assumption here, along with "neurodivergent people are so unattractive that they could never be the *recipient* of unwanted advances"
@economymedicine.bsky.social·2026-09-27T17:26:42.786Z#
Basically offering to teach men how to get the sex they feel entitled to after getting rich. Pick up artistry but somehow creepier because now whether you respond or not determines if you have a career.
Ed "Abolish ICE” Costanza@gojira65.bsky.social·2026-09-27T17:32:46.851Z#
“How to pick up girls, literally”
How is this any different from pickup culture or the manosphere?
Lord Admiral von Tired 🇪🇺🇺🇳🕊️@lordtired.bsky.social·2026-09-27T18:12:02.131Z#
It's wrong in perfect isolation as well, as even in perfect isolation, this is an event going "men in AI are lonely, let's ask women to fix that by organizing an orgy" and that's both stupid and massively sexist.
@pianoplayer.bsky.social·2026-09-28T17:32:04.214Z#
Can this kind of event ever exist in perfect isolation?
Rachel Chatrooms@crabitha.slutmo.de·2026-09-27T16:26:56.033Z#
To me this just seems like a way to get attendees to do what should be paid consultant work for free
Bill R aka N1VUX @bill-n1vux.bsky.social·2026-09-27T16:44:02.164Z#
Indeed, the intersection of work/career, power/money, word philosophy, sex is the problem, much as some would want to kink-shame in isolation.
(Pressure to booze with cow-orkers in the Before Times was bad enough; add unpaid overtime, results in dating cow-orkers and office drama.)
Robert Black@hurricanexyz.bsky.social·2026-09-28T00:15:46.757Z#
Mmmmmmmmkay I am kind of feeling like what should happen at Slutcon is that Olivia Benson and all her friends should bust down the joint and arrest all the organizers
Doug Simpkinson@douglips.com·2026-09-28T05:00:21.983Z#
The kids are calling it paella.
Jeremy C-howl@jmchao.bsky.social·2026-09-28T00:17:19.659Z#
So long as it’s better than the SVU GamerGate episode that ends with Ice-T shooting Logan Paul on a rooftop.
Robert Black@hurricanexyz.bsky.social·2026-09-28T00:18:19.821Z#
Wait nothing about that sounds bad
Deep State NepBOO Baby@ambiguouswoman.bsky.social·2026-09-27T19:06:15.067Z#
Gretta will try to deny this (caught her outright lying on X the other day) but in 2024 she got paid almost $200k to do… idk something at MIRI, Yudkowsky’s non-profit
projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/o...
Frightful Boo-schoff@mpbmke.com·2026-09-27T16:43:11.292Z#
"So They Called You a Creep" sent me over the edge. 😂
Moi@travellator3.bsky.social·2026-09-27T17:28:47.976Z#
the program sounds more like Incelcon to me
Summer 🏳️⚧️@artgirlsummer.bsky.social·2026-09-27T16:26:14.697Z#
Oh, this looks like the worst sex party imaginable
slacey AKA Ted Slaines@shortking.boston·2026-09-29T15:09:02.688Z#
I’ll be 100% honest, that “levels” chart looks like pick up artist training in a different veneer
Rachel Chatrooms@crabitha.slutmo.de·2026-09-29T15:10:00.383Z#
Attendees and students Venn diagram is a circle
classic@classic-chips.bsky.social·2026-09-27T16:58:06.123Z#
that's stupid pickup artist bullshit. it's not even "edgy", unless they're like all naked while they're doing it
Rune Wuff@runewuff.bsky.social·2026-09-27T19:00:55.106Z#
I'm getting flashbacks to the Pick-Up Artist community/scam, because this is what you'd get if you took their ideas and wrote them in bullet points. The method of placing nervous virgin males in a room full of attractive women who act like their awkward advances are working is the same.
Rune Wuff@runewuff.bsky.social·2026-09-27T19:07:40.883Z#
Given how interconnected the tech scene is, I am now curious if some of the OG Pick-Up Artists were connected somehow, because this is EXACTLY like what they were doing before, just refined to appeal to men in Silicon Valley.
Faine Greenwood@faineg.com·2026-09-27T19:08:45.892Z#
I think a lot of these people were into the older PUA culture, yes
Dr. Tessa Fisher@tessafisher.bsky.social·2026-09-28T00:11:55.523Z#
90 minutes devoted to hair braiding??
Otto von Biz Markie@donachaidh.bsky.social·2026-09-28T17:48:00.615Z#
This feels *extremely* PUA-adjacent
🌅 Patricia Wallinga 🌇@pwallinga.bsky.social·2026-09-27T19:09:38.686Z#
Some of these strike me as maybe not how anatomy works
Iykyk@lipstickscribbles.bsky.social·2026-09-27T19:06:31.431Z#
In iso I will slightly differ in that it codes dissecting humanity into some secret machine code (irony of ironies) for getting what the attendee wants. Linguistic dressing changed, but "get chicks" is eternal.
Was TJ too far? Cheetahs parking lot full?
Iykyk@lipstickscribbles.bsky.social·2026-09-27T19:09:49.214Z#
Have watched people squirt linguistics over sex for decades in an Herculean effort to claim they aren't just trying to get what they want rather than just turning the question around and asking the other part(ies) what do you want, really?
Amazing really.
Iykyk@lipstickscribbles.bsky.social·2026-09-27T19:18:23.228Z#
On one ✋, there's a human tragedy there. Empty holes in their psyches/intellects that will never fill no matter how many SC they attend.
Then I remember the massive pain they've caused and are causing (incl directs to me) and they can f right off.
@n0nym0us.bsky.social·2026-09-28T03:14:19.484Z#
This is all just PUA shit in different clothing. It's all very heteronormative & patriarchal. This is just what patriarchy looks like in a society with effective contraceptives that can be controlled by women.
Soliloking@raclapper.bsky.social·2026-09-27T16:36:41.773Z#
Pervert WeWork
Ultraviolet Catastrophe@southernviolet.northsky.social·2026-09-27T22:23:53.168Z#
WeWank
A new more dumber voyage@omnisomni.bsky.social·2026-09-27T17:38:35.675Z#
"ethics of D/s" really should have been the reddest of flags in the rest of the rapey context around all of this.
This is a group of people who's entire knowledge of interpersonal communication was shaped by porn.
The Creatively Maladjusted@tyrotcm.bsky.social·2026-09-27T18:24:16.194Z#
Bad, exploitative porn
The Creatively Maladjusted@tyrotcm.bsky.social·2026-09-27T18:53:35.604Z#
What's the consensus opinion of kink.com these days? Seems to be far better than most, but I'm very out of the loop.
Colin Toal 🇨🇦🇮🇪@colintoal.bsky.social·2026-09-27T23:58:24.262Z#
This is just Andrew Tate/Pick Up Artist horseshit with new clothes. Same con on desperate lonely men who had shit dads, giving them permission to be shit to women and calling it "The Game". This new theme is particularly awful because it tries to wear a feminist/female enpowerment skirt.
Losers.
Funranium (AKA Phil Broughton)@funranium.bsky.social·2026-09-27T17:17:17.603Z#
I deeply regret that I had to explain this to Student a while ago.
Ultraviolet Catastrophe@southernviolet.northsky.social·2026-09-27T20:08:40.357Z#
Oh oh no. But you saved them some pain.
Funranium (AKA Phil Broughton)@funranium.bsky.social·2026-09-27T20:47:55.360Z#
Oh, they didn’t want to go. Merely asked “What the fuck is this? Phil, do you know anything about this?”
Me: [sighs deeply] Unfortunately, I do.
Scaroline@carolinemoore.bsky.social·2026-09-27T21:10:29.307Z#
I really couldn’t get past the phrase “uterine arousal.”
Salt@1smallerthing.bsky.social·2026-09-28T03:15:15.475Z#
Almost certainly connected to some weird hentai crap...
S Zimsen@kelpmonster.bsky.social·2026-09-28T03:58:57.873Z#
I don’t think vibrators for “uterine arousal” would sell very well
… or get good ratings
… or avoid causing serious injuries that we can see (from way over here before they’re invented) are inevitable.
AButhknot@direwolfepc.bsky.social·2026-09-27T23:06:05.299Z#
Actually, there is some thing "wrong" ...
Separately, there is no "perfect isolation "
Henry Fung@henryfung.bsky.social·2026-09-27T19:25:33.648Z#
I think that event is fine but Aella is the last person I want to be associated with it.
Skip Cunningham🆘🇺🇸@ladude.bsky.social·2026-09-27T18:16:22.089Z#
Maybe those guys should read about Cornell.
⏱📋David Steinberg⏱📋@zzyzx.bsky.social·2026-09-29T14:44:04.312Z#
Intro to flirting does sound like it could be REALLY useful in a different setting, if it focuses on trying to teach the difference between fun banter and bothering people.
However I bet here it's "How to trick women."
⏱📋David Steinberg⏱📋@zzyzx.bsky.social·2026-09-29T15:33:51.690Z#
Re: I think there are elements that can be taught.
Is she "yes anding" playing along or is she trying to change the subject?
Does she have an easy escape route or are you pressuring her to join the conversation?
More specifically I'd say things like...
⏱📋David Steinberg⏱📋@zzyzx.bsky.social·2026-09-29T15:33:51.691Z#
There are men who can go from zero to explicit talk and it will work for them. By you being in this class, you're not one of them. Light and breezy is where you should start.
The minimum viable product (hey they're techies!) isn't sex or 2nd base: it's an enjoyable conversation for both.
Dan Davis@bindlestiff.bsky.social·2026-09-29T15:35:24.444Z#
Honestly I can’t conceive of any level of isolation that would make this OK. It seems expressly designed to convince women they should be what puerile men fantasize.
Gabriel S. Pumpkins 🎃@gsjphd.bsky.social·2026-09-27T18:40:39.725Z#
all the language treating flirting like an RPG skill is SENDING me. like sorry I only have like two points in rizz, I'm running a yapping-proficiency build rn
also I feel like the framing here is still downstream of, and unavoidably polluted by the runoff from, "pick-up artist" culture
Gabriel S. Pumpkins 🎃@gsjphd.bsky.social·2026-09-27T18:46:20.606Z#
like, even if you're socially awkward and freeze up when a pretty gal looks you in the eye, it's actually easy to have a pleasant conversation with a woman you've just met! how about this rain, I love those glasses frames, read any good books lately, etc. - not that hard!
what makes it daunting?
Gabriel S. Pumpkins 🎃@gsjphd.bsky.social·2026-09-27T18:46:20.607Z#
the pressure you put on a conversation by treating it as a seduction tactic. it's not enough to have a nice interaction with someone you met, it has to be SO NICE and they have to be SO IMPRESSED that they want to see more of you & maybe even get in your pants. a friendly chat is treated as failure.
Brandon Bishop@brandontbishop.bsky.social·2026-09-27T19:02:29.342Z#
I think it helps to think of all this shit as a distillate of the worst parts of Millennial Online Culture circa 2005.
Barry Goldman@barrygoldman1.bsky.social·2026-09-27T19:16:36.879Z#
are humans going to change in a few 'woke' generations? I think not! we've been trying to change for 6000 years of recorded history. sigh...
the good news is that species seem to last only 2-10million years, then speciation can happen.
Matt 🔆@achoo75.bsky.social·2026-09-27T17:43:05.559Z#
This is basically a roster of courses on "how to prey on your personnel and get away with it"
Matt 🔆@achoo75.bsky.social·2026-09-27T17:46:53.207Z#
That "so you've been called a creep" course made all my muscles go tense
Caga Tio@scottgoeke.bsky.social·2026-09-27T21:31:10.596Z#
there is just something so goddamn dark about these freaks using therapy-speak and (for lack of a better term) woke-speak, yo advance a rape culture
Caga Tio@scottgoeke.bsky.social·2026-09-27T21:32:20.103Z#
just the worst people trying to twist words to make “we should get to rape employees” as sex positive
Caga Tio@scottgoeke.bsky.social·2026-09-27T21:35:20.421Z#
literally all of these fucking dudes could engage in transactional relationships with sex workers for sex
but they PREFER to have coercive sexual relationships with their employee
because they like to demean them and get off on the abusive power dynamic
Kristina of ⭐️⭐️@maytagsmom.bsky.social·2026-09-27T22:36:58.678Z#
Ewwwwwwwww. This sounds like a big “How to get the ladies” dating coach scam, masquerading as a legitimate business event.
Marc Reeve@cmraman.geek.org·2026-09-27T22:40:23.293Z#
It’s worse than that as a large number of the organizers are into “consensual non-consent” aka rape roleplay, but I’m guessing that many women who attend aren’t aware of that.
Kristina of ⭐️⭐️@maytagsmom.bsky.social·2026-09-27T22:53:27.020Z#
🤮🤮🤮
Laura Maguire@lumagoo.bsky.social·2026-09-27T22:43:24.176Z#
"Someone has called you creepy. Maybe more than one person. How can you make sense of that? We don't have all the answers..."
I don't have all the answers either, but I CAN answer this one.
It's because you're a fucking creep. Try Stop Being a Creep for improved social interactions with women.
quitedo@q1t3d0.eurosky.social·2026-09-27T16:26:17.269Z#
Also: this all feels pretty weird. By all means have a good old orgy with safe words but this reads like some tech bros got AI to create a version of a tech show where they get laid.
quitedo@q1t3d0.eurosky.social·2026-09-27T16:24:54.563Z#
The fact that there are men only sessions but no women only sessions rings alarm bells
G-g-g-g-ghost Pete 🦆@whyaduck.bsky.social·2026-09-27T16:14:02.753Z#
For decades corporate golf outings were the way to ice out women. Now that seems quaint.
NYTimes: affirmative action for mediocre editors angry at MeToo@originalist.bsky.social·2026-09-27T17:03:04.152Z#
Rose@starlightwishes.bsky.social·2026-09-28T16:49:02.785Z#
These events are all bad for women. It doesn't matter what the excuse is.
Would Black Americans show up to an event by the KKK where they were told they would be playing "slave games?" No. They would know it was a setup.
Women need to start facing the fact that these are setups to hurt them.
CMHoskins@cmhoskins.bsky.social·2026-09-27T16:15:26.495Z#
Is there actually an event called Slutcon? Seriously?
Faine Greenwood@faineg.com·2026-09-27T16:23:59.176Z#
Faine Greenwood@faineg.com·2026-09-27T16:19:44.850Z#
Yes slutcon.com
Paula Read@paularead.bsky.social·2026-09-27T16:25:42.626Z#
So, they spend 3 days learning about how to talk about consent, treat people with respect, and not to assume that their own immediate desires are shared by random people they don't know at a bar? That all people have a right to decency, choice, and dignity?
Because that would be great!
@thaliamims.bsky.social·2026-09-27T17:43:05.869Z#
Based on the syllabus, they learn pickup artist techniques from the '90s mansophere.
CMHoskins@cmhoskins.bsky.social·2026-09-27T16:25:55.834Z#
OK then.
The Mórrígan@themorriganhatesai.bsky.social·2026-09-27T18:40:02.092Z#
So a team building exercise, then
/s in case that’s not clear
BirbJoe@joebirdwell.bsky.social·2026-09-27T16:29:45.107Z#
The podcast Dystopia Now did a patreon exclusive episode it last December. I wonder if @xriskology.bsky.social might be considering releasing it from the vault for people wondering about that rabbit hole.
CMHoskins@cmhoskins.bsky.social·2026-09-27T16:45:55.998Z#
Wow! I learned SO MUCH today.
Iykyk@lipstickscribbles.bsky.social·2026-09-27T18:57:12.311Z#
Asking someone about attending Slutcon tips much more about the asker than the askee.
I'mlyekka@lyekka1.bsky.social·2026-09-27T23:11:11.401Z#
Yes, it's a hostile work place for sure.
Kevin@jrpg.bsky.social·2026-09-27T16:58:36.505Z#
i think ai safety is just a marketing term made up by the gaslighting kink woman for the silicon valley groupsex scene
Stoned Feminist 👻 Spooky Version@ladylinds.bsky.social·2026-09-27T16:26:45.677Z#
This is really gross. Nobody will ever convince me that people with these values are building a product that is going to be good for humanity
Chirpchirp@malenaschoobs.bsky.social·2026-09-27T18:41:53.091Z#
🎯
Doll@dollspace.gay·2026-09-27T16:52:11.517Z#
@tautologer.com Good on you btw for standing up to this
Faine Greenwood@faineg.com·2026-09-27T16:54:47.207Z#
oh didn’t realize they were on here!
tautologer@tautologer.com·2026-09-27T20:16:53.875Z#
thank you!!
Ivy is Beautiful and Talented@poisonivy.bsky.social·2026-09-27T20:17:16.787Z#
yes big time seconded
pj-evans.bsky.social@pj-evans.bsky.social·2026-09-27T17:50:01.755Z#
"consensual adults"? Those words don't go together in that way.
Elizadeath ⚰️@auntieentropy.northsky.social·2026-09-27T18:07:06.013Z#
That's some "pick me" energy from that Aella, all right.
👻 Spooky Cat War 👻@eternalcatwar.bsky.social·2026-09-27T16:15:06.178Z#
if these freaks didn’t have computer jobs this stuff would put them in jail
Sava Blue@unicorntickles.bsky.social·2026-09-27T16:20:05.569Z#
I work in the banking/finance world…and while I’m not going to say it’s always great…I have never anything like this in the 15 years I’ve worked in it. Does pressure for sex happen? Yeah of course, but not on such an…institutional (industrial?) scale. This is just…wild.
Sava Blue@unicorntickles.bsky.social·2026-09-27T17:10:29.201Z#
And just reference, my company effectively put a rule in place that any after work gathering of employees (even just a group at happy hour after work), the most senior level employee is responsible for whatever happens and is required to report problematic behavior.
Sava Blue@unicorntickles.bsky.social·2026-09-27T17:12:21.041Z#
And when I say problematic I mean harassment like stuff (non-sexual included). Doesn’t necessarily prevent stuff from happening but it puts some (mostly perceived) liability on people that should know better.
👻 Spooky Cat War 👻@eternalcatwar.bsky.social·2026-09-27T16:21:40.561Z#
it’s so fucking gross
Sava Blue@unicorntickles.bsky.social·2026-09-27T16:24:55.346Z#
Me too 2: electric boogaloo is gonna need tribunals
Ozmodiar, Space Elf@ozmodiar.bsky.social·2026-09-27T16:35:53.287Z#
I’m trying to imagine this happening in any other industry. I guess Hollywood was like this until metoo and probably still is in some corners. But this would be a scandal that would empty out whole C suites in other industries
👻 Spooky Cat War 👻@eternalcatwar.bsky.social·2026-09-27T16:37:32.168Z#
I wish I shared your optimism
🎃Halved Josh Spooky Edition🎃@outerleftfield.net·2026-09-27T16:28:00.708Z#
Regardless of there jobs, these freaks should absolutely be facing charges. Sadly cops and weird nerds are doing the predator meme over sexual perfidy.
Chris T@n0v0w3ls.bsky.social·2026-09-27T17:33:59.035Z#
Why is Aella part of "AI Safety" at all? What are her qualifications outside of just knowing all the other people involved? Why does she have any power to "ice people out"?
DakotaVAdams@toxicmicroceleb.bsky.social·2026-09-27T18:03:58.706Z#
All of these people are "self taught" and believe they are geniuses.
A Frogs Gent@frogsgent.bsky.social·2026-09-28T00:42:32.466Z#
As an autistic man myself, I find the notion that autistic men are somehow wholly incapable of understanding when they might make women uncomfortable to be ridiculous and frankly offensive.
It is not an unknowable thing.
Groceries@crisiscake.bsky.social·2026-09-28T23:28:44.964Z#
it's surprising to think of someone not developing a complex about -or at least noting patterns to- when people are made uncomfortable by them by adulthood
Groceries@crisiscake.bsky.social·2026-09-28T23:30:29.005Z#
imagine trying to invent a form of autism that doesn't overlap with cptsd through virulent misogyny & disinterest. to actually cultivate the lack of empathy people are accused of
Groceries@crisiscake.bsky.social·2026-09-28T23:32:37.931Z#
just full on big bang theory-ing, getting fucking bazinga pilled
A Frogs Gent@frogsgent.bsky.social·2026-09-29T00:47:17.654Z#
Yeah, you'd think at least they would be capable of understanding "I don't like it when I feel This Way, there's things I can do that make people feel This Way, I should avoid doing those things."
Rev Dr Larvell Jones@drmarvelljones.bsky.social·2026-09-27T16:37:30.779Z#
How can these people claim to represent AI safety when they cannot understand social safety?
This is absurd.
Clean Observer@hammbear2024.bsky.social·2026-09-27T20:18:17.435Z#
They can’t.
Clean Observer@hammbear2024.bsky.social·2026-09-27T20:21:02.311Z#
All of the sex stuff is helpful because it exposes the “ai safety community” as a big scam. Faker than a $3 bill. The concepts here need to be how to make ai reflect social and legal norms. You don’t need grand theory for that. We’re granting way too much of the premise here.
Frances Lorenz@franceslorenz.bsky.social·2026-09-27T22:44:28.175Z#
I believe AI safety has serious issues of sexism, but I also work in the field and do not believe it to be a scam. Though, I agree that the government needs to regulate AI. However, technical solutions are part of regulation and I do believe technical research is needed.
Clean Observer@hammbear2024.bsky.social·2026-09-27T22:47:17.171Z#
I defer to experts (in this case you), but I don’t think this milieu is doing that. I think they are spending others’ money and are otherwise layabouts.
🎃andy, crumpkinhead🎃@crumpandy.bsky.social·2026-09-27T16:12:51.992Z#
Normalize looking men dead in the eye when they say something that’s smart from a distance and insanely fucking stupid up close, and telling them that they’re blithering idiots.
🎃andy, crumpkinhead🎃@crumpandy.bsky.social·2026-09-27T16:14:10.788Z#
I guarantee you that if anyone ever did this to, for instance, Thiel - not simply challenge him, but express outright contempt toward his intellect, wrapped up in an insult - he would react as if he’s just been slapped across the face. No one talks down to these self-styled gods. And they should.
Ryan@ryanhumphrey.bsky.social·2026-09-27T16:30:00.064Z#
Well, yes he would. And there’s a non-zero chance his response to this would be to give his lawyers an infinite budget to destroy the lives of you, and everyone who associates with you. He’s done it before. Repeatedly
Ryan@ryanhumphrey.bsky.social·2026-09-27T16:30:00.065Z#
The Venn of people who would do this, can afford to do this, and move on the circles where they’d have the opportunity, has effectively zero overlap. Same goes for Musk and JKR, and every other rich psychopath. There’s a reason they all go berserk when social media exposes them to any criticism
🎃andy, crumpkinhead🎃@crumpandy.bsky.social·2026-09-27T17:15:29.813Z#
I am aware of his petty proxy lawsuits, but I’m not aware of him personally instigating lawsuits against people who’ve called him a nitwitted twatwaffle to his face.
Possible Cabbage 🟢@possiblecabbage.bsky.social·2026-09-27T16:26:12.161Z#
I am genuinely aghast at the idea that "shy, awkward men are going to get useful information about how to interact with women from Sex Parties where consent is dubious." Like interacting with women in almost any other context seems far more productive.
Z.V. Anjali@zvanjali.bsky.social·2026-09-27T18:08:37.480Z#
men who act poorly are neurodivergent meow meows, women who want to say no and do so "imperfectly" are just bitches failing their obligation of having perfect social skills and always making everyone feel good
ценитель позднесоветского брейнрота@polivoks.bsky.social·2026-09-28T12:35:53.922Z#
and neurodivergent women struggling with reading social cues are relegated to sexy objects whose struggle is sexualized.
Frances Lorenz@franceslorenz.bsky.social·2026-09-27T22:42:26.909Z#
Yes. Women have been trying to discuss their experiences in these spaces for years. I wrote about the harassment I experienced at CEA, and it was well-received because I had learned the only acceptable tone one may take to discuss such issues. It depresses me. I spent months on the post.
Frances Lorenz@franceslorenz.bsky.social·2026-09-27T22:42:46.676Z#
Frances Lorenz@franceslorenz.bsky.social·2026-09-27T22:46:40.508Z#
FWIW, I do not believe the organization has actually improved since my post. I know of an additional person who left, even with the updated policies and new HR professional, due to a separate incident of suspected sexism and hostility. There are serious cultural issues.
Z.V. Anjali@zvanjali.bsky.social·2026-09-27T23:41:06.579Z#
I am so sorry you went through that and had to police your own tone so strictly. From a personal POV, your experience is appalling. From a legal one, I can't imagine what the CEA attorneys were thinking.
Frances Lorenz@franceslorenz.bsky.social·2026-09-27T23:57:06.796Z#
Thank you, I appreciate it! The CEO left a comment on the post, which attempts to explain. I found his comment pretty gross and very different to anything else that had been said to me before posting. I also found his explanation absurd. I think it's impossible to know what they were thinking.
Andromeda Yelton@thatandromeda.bsky.social·2026-09-27T23:05:31.680Z#
the discipline around tone is extraordinary, but also it's infuriating that you had to.
Ivy is Beautiful and Talented@poisonivy.bsky.social·2026-09-27T18:16:32.953Z#
yep the rationalists bitch about women who do say something not being 'precise'
@timothystamm101.bsky.social·2026-09-27T21:31:58.805Z#
More words that they're trying to weasel into meaning something shitty.
Rev. Deral "FreeLink" Fenderson@fendersonia.bsky.social·2026-09-27T17:02:29.222Z#
“Lament about precision all you want, but the precise issues exist and they are ignored.”
This tangentially makes me think of one criticism I heard once about LLM stuff—that it tends to ignore or outright throw out the outliers or the edge cases.
wembley@bananashirt.bsky.social·2026-09-28T02:54:27.119Z#
wow rereading this and it's just enraging
Rivikah@rivikah.bsky.social·2026-09-27T18:32:14.042Z#
Their defenders have tried some of this here on BlueSky in these very conversations.
"These weirdos are holding sex parties as work events."
"That's cool. Sex is normal and good for you. What are you some kind of sex negative prude?"
@kateewok.bsky.social·2026-09-27T16:23:22.340Z#
My snobstism is very annoyed that these weirdos keep throwing it in there for association like I do not need that, gross
Josephine Stewart@jostewart.myatproto.social·2026-09-27T17:31:31.479Z#
This jumps out hard, third image: "If this field is going to grow, then it will need women." Is this consensus in "AI," in tech in general, elsewhere? Men in some sectors appear to welcome recent opportunities to shut all but the most biddable women out, via whatever mechanism is at hand.
Chris T@n0v0w3ls.bsky.social·2026-09-27T17:21:31.325Z#
I don't think we ever have to grant that the first Motte and Bailey is happening. It literally doesn't matter.
